Paul Turner: I completely agree, having that mentorship and leadership is critically important as we’re developing earlier in our careers. Your journey sounds very similar to mine, always seeking out that leadership, that ability to learn and thirst for knowledge. It’s definitely helpful to have some of that guidance to get into this commissioning industry for sure.
Now you’ve worked on several large projects leading worldwide teams across several continents. How has this global experience and leadership strength shaped your leadership philosophy and approach to project development?
Paul Turner: I’ve heard you mention in the past that leadership is really rooted in inspiration, resilience, and mentorship. Can you share how these values show up in the way that you lead your teams today?
Heinz Inabnit: Yeah, I had good mentors in my family. Both my mom and dad were entrepreneurs running a cattle ranch and a restaurant, being first-generation Canadians who immigrated to Canada in the early 70s. They showed a lot of hustle and vigor, pushed through, and became great business people themselves.
Paul Turner: It’s become really important for sure as our wise commissioning experts are retiring — they’re taking that expertise with them, and we need those mentorship processes to transfer that knowledge to the next generation that can lead projects to success. You’ve mentioned charities, and you’ve been a long-time supporter of Big Brothers Big Sisters. Why is mentorship so important to you personally, and how has it influenced how you build teams and organizations?
Paul Turner: I agree for sure. Watching that development take place is very rewarding. From our perspective at ICxA, we’re super thrilled to have your leadership and mentorship as part of this global movement to elevate the importance of commissioning on projects. What motivated you to step into this leadership position with ICxA?
Heinz Inabnit: Well, as we say, long-time listener, first-time caller. I’ve been watching what you guys have been doing for a long time, and it’s something that’s near and dear to my heart — honestly something that has always been on my mind. Right now, I really truly see the power and the momentum that ICxA has in the industry, especially with the types of people and the strength and background of the people becoming involved with the organization right now. It’s something I want to be a part of, and I truly see how the work that you guys have done already and our ability now to take that and really run with it, with some of the really strong members on the Advisory Board, can help catapult this globally.
Paul Turner: Absolutely. To support the global mission of improved project performance, which is so badly needed in the industry. From your perspective, what is the Advisory Council’s primary purpose, and how does it strengthen ICxA’s ability to achieve these global mission goals that we’re undertaking?
Paul Turner: That replication is key for sure. We need a consistent method to complete projects, which currently doesn’t exist in the industry, it’s kind of scattered all over the place. This global movement that ICxA is undertaking is definitely going to help all projects across all industries succeed in meeting initial expectations for cost, time, and scope. As Chairman of the ICxA Advisory Council, what principles will guide how the Council collaborates and executes the strategic plan that we’re undertaking?
Paul Turner: Absolutely. That’s a critical point too, because the standards are one thing, but then turning the strategy into execution is where leadership is really going to make the difference. How do you see the Advisory Council helping ICxA translate this roadmap from intent into measurable outcomes with government, with project lenders, with delivery professionals — so that we can all deliver successful projects?
Paul Turner: Policy will be key for sure to have that early upfront involvement of commissioning — to, as you’ve heard many times on projects, start with the end in mind. That’s the key: to have commissioning upfront at the beginning of projects and plan the finish before you even begin. You lead completions and commissioning for WSG Energy Services across the Americas. From your vantage point, what are the biggest shifts happening in completions and commissioning today?
Paul Turner: I see that as well projects are being reviewed by bankers, engineers; they want to see that there’s a plan in place upfront before projects are funded. That the commissioning and startup at the end is in fact being thought about and is going to be successful. You’re right, projects are getting more complex. There are more electrical systems, more interfaces. Everything’s interconnected. Remotely operated projects are just quite complex these days and require a new approach. Teams need to be communicating more effectively. Systems need to be communicating more effectively. Really, communication seems to me one of the core values of delivering successful projects. How can project leaders communicate commissioning and outcome assurance in a way that truly inspires confidence and alignment among stakeholders?
Paul Turner: You’re right, there is really no secret sauce. There is a standardized systemization approach to finish projects, whether that’s electrical projects, mechanical projects, oil and gas, chemical processing — it’s all very similar. That’s what this standard will encapsulate to help everybody understand commissioning.
Paul Turner: It should be pretty consistent, right? Pipes, pumps, valves, motors — it doesn’t matter what order or sequence or configuration those are in, whether there’s oil in the pipe or chocolate sauce in the pipe, you still need the same process to make all those things work with the instrumentation, electrical, and automation.
Paul Turner: Or it could be wastewater, could be anything in the pipes, right? Pipes, pumps, valves, motors — you’ve all got to control them the same to make whatever process you’re trying to implement work. If you could send one message directly to governance, financiers, and project owners about why commissioning and outcome assurance matter, what would you want them to understand?
Paul Turner: Absolutely. The cost of commissioning itself isn’t all that expensive on a project, but the cost of delays during commissioning can be astronomical — in the order of years or billions of dollars. It’s very effective risk mitigation to prevent that from happening with upfront thoughts about commissioning. Looking ahead, what’s your vision for the Advisory Council’s role in the next 12 to 24 months?
Paul Turner: We really need to bridge that gap, and the Advisory Council can be part of that bridging and mentorship piece for sure — to help with that knowledge transfer as our wise commissioning experts are retiring now. When it comes to project governance at the project sponsorship/executive level, how do you see ICxA positioning itself as the global authority for commissioning and outcome assurance to embed commissioning in some of these governance processes?
Paul Turner: There may be people listening that think, “Yeah, this all sounds great — this is what’s needed, and something they would want to implement in their organization.” But it’s sometimes challenging to make that organizational transformation and embed some of these processes. For those groups that would like to start and go down this path, what’s the best way they can start to have those discussions within their organizations?
Paul Turner: That’s great advice. For anybody watching, definitely feel free to reach out to myself or Heinz or anybody on the Advisory Council. If this is something you want to get involved in, we’re looking for everyone’s participation to make this a gathering of the collective wisdom of the industry. Finally, on a personal note, what excites you most about the journey ahead that we’re undertaking for ICxA, the Advisory Council, and this global movement for elevated commissioning on projects?
Paul Turner: I’ll definitely second that comment. That’s always been my excitement with commissioning — there’s always extremely smart people involved, and I just love being surrounded by those smart people to learn and grow and develop and figure out how I can better improve my projects as well. So I totally agree, and I’m excited to work with some of the smart people involved in this initiative.
All right, I see we’ve got some questions here. Maybe I’ll just shoot some questions up on the screen, Heinz, and give you a chance to comment.
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